****************************************************************************** From: henri@icis.rmsb.u-bordeaux2.fr (Henri Valeins) Date: 22 Oct 1996 16:22:10 GMT Subject: Pbs differenciation Glutamic acid and Glutamine Organization: RMSB, CNRS, Universite V. Segalen Bordeaux 2 Hello, What is the best technique to differenciate glutamic acid an glutamine with Gc coupled to a mass spectrometer ? I tried silylation with BSA and acetonitrile or pyridine but I obtain essentially pyroglutamic acid TMS ester. Thanks ,., (o o) +-----------oOO-|(_)|-OOo------------------+-------------------------+ |Henri Valeins |RMSB CNRS UMR 5536 | |Tel : 57 57 17 85 |Universite de Bordeaux 2 | |Fax : 56 96 13 41 |146, rue Leo Saignat | |E-mail : henri.valeins@rmsb.u-bordeaux2.fr|33076 Bordeaux Cedex | +------------------------------------------+-------------------------+ ****************************************************************************** From: Bruce Patterson Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:40:17 -0600 Subject: Re: Pbs differenciation Glutamic acid and Glutamine Organization: School of Medicine -- Washington University We have had great success with the tBDMS (tert. butyldimethylsilyl) derivative using MTBSTFA and either acetonitrile (ACN) or dimethylformamide (DMF) as solvent. Glutamate does generate some pyro-GLU. Glutamine does not appear to give rise to glutamate. Two different derivatives are formed with glutamine: 3 substitutions are preferred using ACN, whereas 4 substitutions are preferred using DMF. Good luck! References: Patterson, Carraro and Wolfe, Measurement of 15N enrichment in multiple amino acids and urea in a single analysis by gas chromatography/mass spectrometry, Biol. Mass Spectrom. 22:518-523, 1993 Patterson, Carraro, Klein and Wolfe, Quantification of incorporation of 15N-ammonia into plasma amino acids and urea, Am. J. Physiol. 269:E508-E515, 1995 Williams and Wolfe, Determination of amino- and amide-15N glutamine enrichment with tertiary butyldimethylsilyl derivatives. Biol. Mass Spectrom. 23:682-688, 1994 Bruce Patterson, Ph.D. Washington Univ. School of Medicine, St. Louis bpatters@imgate.wustl.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------